Episode 019: Making a Career Out of Resistance


You will feel resistance at many points in your career- and in your life. 

Let that sink in for a second.  You’re always gonna feel that dread and fear around life’s transitions. 

When you say it THAT way, of course it sounds dire and like you’re being a Negative Nancy.  

But what if knowing that and taking it at face value actually gives you the freedom to work through it and create lasting positive change for yourself? 





On this week’s show, Making a Career Out of Resistance, we’re talking with Susannah Baillin, who has had many a career transition in her varied career.  

And they’ve all come with some version of resistance. We’re talking with her about: 



  • Physical and emotional manifestations of resistance – and realizing these are normal reactions and feelings 
  • Feeling resistance at every transition – and understanding how YOUR own resistance can manifest in health and wellness, sleep, mental psyche and more 
  • How butting heads with the version of myself I think I should be, creates further resistance and starts a vicious cycle that takes work to pull yourself out of 
  • Her process for getting out of resistance and the TWO questions she MUST answer before getting out of resistance 
  • How our “quick fix” listicle (articles like “The 5 Ways to Be More Successful Instantly!) culture adds fuel to the fire. 


I have to say- and I know I say this every week- but we are LUCKY to have Susannah on the show today. She’s able to share a more global view having gone through more transitions than most of us to show us “normal” and to show us what it takes to keep going. When we’re in our own microcosm of our own lives, we can feel alone and frankly, a little dumb (“Why does everyone have this figured out but me?!?”) 

And don’t forget, we’ve created a tool for you this month so you can start to work through your own resistance woes. Grab it at the button directly below this sentence! 






Show Notes (Timings are Approximate) 



Introduction: 1:39 

What did resistance feel like and look like for her? 2:39 

The two questions to ask yourself around resistance: 9:00 

Social media or no? 21:34 

Resources and Tools to Move Through Resistance 25:00 

Questions to use / Ways to Vet Community: 33:00 



Resources Mentioned on the Show 


VIA (Values Interests Assessment) 

Myers Briggs 

Book: What Color Is Your Parachute? 

Book: Connected 

Book: Thinking Fast & Slow 

App: Unstuck 

Book: The Book of Doing 

Cards: The Flip Files 

EPISODE 018: Permanent Butt Imprint In Your Sofa? Ways to Get Up Inside


When Patty Chang Anker, my guest on this week’s show, Working Through Your Own Fears and Resistance, said that thing about the permanent butt imprint in her sofa from all the lack of action back in the day, I laughed out loud. Like a guffaw on the show- because I know that feeling SO well.  


The feeling of what it’s like to be stuck in your own inaction. 


Of feeling momentum slow with every new Stranger Things episode you binge. 


Soooo, in today’s show, I brought in the big guns- someone with very deep personal experience with resistance AND someone who has used that experience and her own tools and know-how to guide people from glued to their seat to making all kinds of moves they never thought possible.  


Patty Chang Anker worked through her own battle with resistance and anxiety around various aspects of her life- and now she’s helping people chart their own journey. You’ll hear more of her story on the show. 




We’re getting DEEP in this episode and you’re going to hear all kinds of ways to get out of your own way including:

  • How to take the first step to get moving (it’s not as scary as you think) 
  • How to push through the fears, worry and sleepless nights in a way that might surprise you 
  • Understanding how to pinpoint what stories you’ve built up around yourself to keep you from reaching for something new – and how to break them down 
  • Easily being able to discern the difference between reality and the constructed reality of an office culture that might be holding you back 
  • Knowing when you’re putting yourself in a box (or being put in a box by your colleagues)  


We are telling ALL KINDS of stories on this show- our own and anecdotes from clients – so you know when you’re listening to this that you’re not alone. Far from it- we’ve all got a resistance story or 12.  

So what are you waiting for? Grab the episode and don’t forget to get the tool this month that walks you through how to break through your own resistance.  





Show Notes (Timings are Approximate) 


Patty Chang Anker’s Intro 2:40 

First (TEENY) Step to getting unstuck 5:20 

Resistance Trends 11:10 

Resistance as an external force 21:00 

Key techniques for resistance coaching 25:55 

Resistance and Public Speaking 31:00 

More Key Resources to Overcoming Resistance 38:30 

Role of Past Failure and Success on our Present Decisions 42:00 

Patty’s Info: Keep in Touch 46:00 



Resources Mentioned On The Show: 


Patty’s Site: www.pattychanganker.com 

Patty’s Book: Some Nerve 

Book: Don’t Panic 

Book: Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway 

Book: Do the Work  

Book: The Art of Possibility  

Episode 017: Getting Comfortable with Resistance- How’s it Showing Up In Your Career?


We can all just admit it. Resistance kind of sucks. It’s a crazy powerful force that can even knock the most diligent and goal-oriented among us off kilter, causing us to whittle away our days and nights sitting on the couch with a glass or two of pinot noir, watching Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, which then causes us to cry into aforementioned pinot noir at the state of the world. 


Anyway, I digress. SEE?! Look what resistance made me do! I just went on a tangent with imaginary pinot noir! 


This is why we’re focusing on the topic and idea of resistance this month. And I suspect we’ll return to it again and again over the coming years. Because as far as I can tell, it never goes away completely, and can resurface in sneaky ways- to the point that you might not even realize you’re resisting something! 


SO, this month we’re providing all sorts of different perspectives on this beast, and I’ve creating a tool to help you start to chip away at resistance.  We’re helping you uncover where it comes from, how it shows up and what you can do about it. Get it by clicking the button below.  




Later this month, we’re going to be sharing tons of listener stories and other guests’ stories on resistance, but for now, it’s time to do a check in with yourself. Grab the tool for this month and uncover: 


  • Where resistance comes from for you 
  • How it shows up in your life 
  • What you can do about it 




AND if you want to work on this with other ladies wanting to make big moves but are feeling stuck when left to your own devices, join us on our retreat outside of NYC this month! We’ve just got 2 slots left! 


Career Retreat: Decoding Your Career Potential


September 15-17, 2017 


If you’ve been saying these, things, this retreat is designed for you.

“I don’t know what I’m qualified for.”

“I’ve applied to dozens of jobs but haven’t received so much as a call back.”

“I look at job description after job description and know the hiring manager wouldn’t even look at my application.”

“HR managers tell me I’m not a good fit for the role, but I thought I was.”


All the info about what this amazingness is all about can be found HERE. 



Show notes (Timings are Approximate) 


Defining Resistance: 1:21 

Why This Theme? 2:30 

Sneaky Resistance 3:23 

Benefits of Breaking through Resistance 4:30 

Not a quick fix 7:22 

Outline of 3 Sections of Resistance in the Show 9:35 

Where does Resistance come from? 11:04 

How Can it Manifest? 14:00 

What can you do about resistance? 19:03 


Resources Mentioned on the Show: 


War of Art by Stephen PressfieldFacebook Post on sharing resistance hacks – share yours here! 

Todd Herman’s OPP Time Management Model 

Emotional Journey of Creating Something Great – John Saddington 

Essentialism by Greg McKeown 

Zen Habits – Starting, Over and Over Again 

Episode 016: Creating a Career Around a Lifestyle Choice with Creative Edge Travel


What do Aziz Ansari and this podcast episode have in common?  

A lot actually. When I read his recent GQ article that touched upon cultural immersion, taking breaks and enjoying life, I just knew I had to talk about it with Sierra Busch, founder of Creative Edge Travel.   

This week, we’re wrapping up our August theme around Doing Work Around Something You Love. As with a lot of the stories we tell on the show, she’s in the thick of figuring out how to merge her love of travel and new experiences with a business model that satisfies her – and pays the bills.  

As I think you might be catching onto by this point in the month if you’ve been listening to all the shows, this isn’t an overnight thing. (Or in my case, it’s not something that happens within a year or two). 

I’m not saying that AT ALL to scare you away from this. I know that might be the first inclination, but actually, what I’m trying to say is that once you allow your brain to realize it’s normal, it can kinda make the whole process and journey fun with a dash of terrifying, rather than terrifying with a dash of fun.  


See? Doesn’t that sound better already!? 


All kidding aside, there are GEMS in this episode that I’m outlining below, but you can listen to us talk about it in way more detail in the show. 



I met Sierra through Dreamers/Doers, a networking group I’ve mentioned on the show that we’re both in. We’ve been friends and colleagues for a couple years now, and one thing that’s always struck me about Sierra is her seriousness in committing to the journey of this new travel business, not a quick fix to whatever she was experiencing or a quick win. She’s thoughtful and introspective and we can all take at least one lesson from her playbook, including some of these goodies:  


  • INTERIM GOALS: If you just have a big far off goal, it feels like it’s never getting any closer. Sierra has an ‘end of week goal’ that she checks in on every Sunday night as it relates to the BIG goal. She describes how she does this as relates to her travel biz on the show. 
  • WORK SMART: Are you checking off tiny things that mean nothing thinking you’re accomplishing something? There’s a better way we discuss on the show.  
  • WHAT’S YOUR MISSION: This is a word and idea thrown around a lot, and while it’s important, Sierra takes it to a whole new level. And you’ll be surprised when you listen- it’s not what you think.  
  • KISS OF DEATH WHEN YOU’RE JUST GETTING STARTED: When people get stuck, they usually behave and react in a certain way. We discuss the way that keeps you moving forward, rather than running for the hills.  
  • PULLING AT THREADS: This is a concept I talk about a lot. It’s not about HUGE AHA MOMENTS ALL THE TIME! Those happen, but it’s really the tiny threads of thought you pull at and explore that lead you to the aha moment.  Her trip to Italy provided a ton of those threads for her travel biz. 
  • BURNOUT: When you’re trying to make something new and figure it out, burnout tries to be your bestie. Don’t let it. Listen to Sierra’s sage advice on this now.  


I’ll stop yammering here and let you get to the show. It’s SUCH a good one for any of you looking to start something on the side to hear a little more about what it’s actually like before you get into it. And it’s also good for those of us just starting something new- we’re in the thick of it, and not every day is roses and sunshine, so this show keeps in real with some actual tips you can use for yourself.  

 And don’t forget- this month’s tool on tracking things in your biz is still very much alive and well! You can grab it here.




Show Notes (Timings are Approximate):  


Sierra’s Intro: 1:30 

The Balancing Act – Her secret 4:02 

Structuring her day 5:02 

Working on her mission: 11:45 

Aziz Ansari: 15:23 

The moment Sierra realized she wanted career and lifestyle to mesh: 18:32 

Internal pressure and corporate pressure 23:45 

How Italy led to this transformation 27:20 

Drawbacks to this new endeavor: 31:15 

Mantra/Technique for Rocky Days: 35:44 

Rapid Fire Travel Questions: 38:00 



How to Keep in Touch with Sierra: 


Website: www.creativeedgetravel.com 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creativeedgetravel/ 

Artwork: https://www.watercolor-muse.com/ 




Resources Mentioned on the Show: 


Toggl- time management tool 

Trello- project management tool 

GQ Aziz Ansari Article 

Work Away – volunteering and working through travel in foreign countries 

Essentialism– Book by Greg McKeown 

Travelistas United – Facebook group for travel lovers and travel entrepreneurs 

Episode 015: What’s it REALLY Like in the Early Stages of a New Career?

early stages of a new career

Ever wonder what the VERY early stages of a new career or business are? Like….that very moment when a seed germinates? Or even earlier than that, when the future business owner or whomever was ‘all over the place’ or unfocused? 

I don’t think those stories get told enough, so that’s why August’s theme really digs into that. We’ve already talked with a few people in the thick of it here and here, and Erin Greenawald talked last month about the exploring she’s doing (PS: I hired her to do the copy for my new website- stay tuned!) 

Today, you get an oh-so-special treat. You get to listen to JUST me for 30 minutes in today’s show “What’s it REALLY Like in the Early Stages of a New Career”. You lucky ducks! 

 I created a tool for this show and month to help you track things in the early early stages of your biz or side project. Get it here.


early stages of a new career


Once in awhile, I’ll do a solo show and this was the perfect opportunity. I’m taking you through the four phases of the early stages of a new career and starting my business (and moving to doing it full time). And the first phase starts earlier than you might think- in my comfortable corporate job.  Here’s a quick roadmap to the episode: 


  • Phase One: Corporate Life 
  • Phase Two: Breakout Time- Exploration Phase! 
  • Phase Three: Back in the USA: Learning and Growing 
  • Phase Four: Enter Heather, Stage Left: Transitioning to a Full-Time Business Owner 


And you know, usually I cringe at the sound of my own voice (Does anyone else think they sound like Steve Urkel?) but I sound pretty darn good here, so I’ll let the melodic staccato of my voice tell you the majority of this story, but some key points are included here: 


  • This one SOUNDS obvious but we forget it all the damn time. I didn’t know what was gonna happen looking forward so I can only tell you this story looking backwards.  MEANING, I didn’t have a fancy 5-year plan at first. 
  • Evaluate and maintain space for introspection. In other words, write shit down. 
  • It’s all about being open to receiving. Receiving new experiences and perspectives, so you can later connect the dots between ideas and experiences 
  • When you make the decision to make a big change and move toward the early stages of a new career, you will have an “OH CRAP” moment where you convince yourself you must abandon ship and stay the course. This is the universe testing you. If you’ve made a decision, it’s because you’ve DONE.YOUR.HOMEWORK. 
  • There will be lags. Look, life gets in the way AND/OR you have shifting priorities. Just because you were determined and it fell by the wayside, doesn’t mean it’s lost forever.  
  • You grow with time and experience. That’s it. There’s no magic pill. 


Ok, seriously, there’s so much more than that IN the show about the early stages of a new career, so go listen now and grab the tool! 


early stages of a new career

Show Notes (Timings are Approximate) 


Introduction of Show 1:00 

4 Phase Approach to the Early Stages of a New Career 2:28 

How to Take the Pressure Off: 3:15 

Phase 1: Corporate Phase: 5:18 

Phase 2: Breakout Time! – Exploration Phase: 11:30 

Phase 3: Back in the USA! Growing & Learning: 19:43 

Phase 4: Enter Heather, Stage Left- Transitioning to a Full-Time Business Owner: 22:20 


Resources Mentioned in the Show 


Mi Huerta Nino  

IPEC Coaching School 

Heather Markel- My Business Coach 

Amy Porterfield- Your Ideal Client Podcast 

Six Degrees Society 

Jill’s Career Passport Retreat! 

Levo League